Talking to Mormon Missionaries On The Street

This is actual recorded video footage of my friend, Pastor Jeff Durbin speaking with two Mormon missionaries yesterday. Jeff spotted these missionaries riding their bikes across the street while he was with the head of ‘The Red Door’ abortion ministry (Jamie) outside of an abortion clinic in Tempe, Arizona. Jeff called out to the missionaries and they rode their bikes up.

The video footage includes the discussion that took place. This is an excellent resource to share with Mormons and Christians alike.

Mohler at BYU

On Monday, October 21, Dr. Al Mohler spoke to the faculty of Brigham Young University. The theme was “A Clear and Present Danger: Religious Liberty, Marriage, and the Family in the Late Modern Age.”

Outstanding!

Here’s one quote from the talk: “I do not believe that we are going to heaven together, but I do believe we may go to jail together. I do not mean to exaggerate, but we are living in the shadow of a great moral revolution that we commonly believe will have grave and devastating human consequences.”

Here is the complete transcript.

Mormonism’s real issue

The real issue with Mormonism: “God is an exalted man” – by Dr. James White ( and is an exalted man. . . . That is the great secret. . . . We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea. . . . [H]e was once a man like us.” ~Joseph Smith

“Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever you had formed the earth and the world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God” (Psalm 90:1?2).

“God is not a man” (Num. 23:19; Cf. 1 Sam. 15:29).

“Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me” (Is. 43:10; Cf. 44:6, 8).

The following words are the most often quoted non-Scriptural teaching of Joseph Smith, the founder of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormons)—most often quoted, that is, in LDS Church literature itself:

God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens! That is the great secret. If the veil were rent today, and the great God who holds this world in its orbit, and who upholds all worlds and all things by his power, was to make himself visible,—I say, if you were to see him today, you would see him like a man in form—like yourselves in all the person, image, and very form as a man; for Adam was created in the very fashion, image and likeness of God, and received instruction from, and walked, talked and conversed with him, as one man talks and communes with another.

In order to understand the subject of the dead, for consolation of those who mourn for the loss of their friends, it is necessary we should understand the character and being of God and how he came to be so; for I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea, and take away the veil, so that you may see.

These are incomprehensible ideas to some, but they are simple. It is the first principle of the Gospel to know for a certainty the Character of God, and to know that we may converse with him as one man converses with another, and that he was once a man like us; yea, that God himself, the Father of us all, dwelt on an earth, the same as Jesus Christ himself did; and I will show it from the Bible.

These words come from the infamous “King Follett Funeral Discourse,” delivered by Smith on April 7, 1844. They represent the final, developed form of Smith’s theology of God, a theology that underwent massive change between the founding of the Church almost exactly fourteen years earlier. In fact, it is quite plain that Smith did not hold to this radical denial of historic Christian doctrine when he founded the LDS Church in 1830. But sometime in the mid 1830s his views became more and more radical until they reached this final stage shortly before his murder in the Carthage City jail June 27th, 1844. These words, though never canonized, obtained quasi-canonical status by their constant repetition in the teachings of the LDS leadership over the next decades. A quick review of the writings of the LDS leaders all the way up to the modern period will find these words repeated more often than any other teaching of Joseph Smith.

In postmodern times, where fuzziness of thinking and inaccuracy of thought has become the hallmark of so much dialogue, and in particular, in the realm of religion, clear delineation of belief and doctrine has become outdated and unpopular. There is an automatic suspicion of anyone who seeks clarity in confession and doctrine. Such persons must be insecure or, even worse, may be on the road to some kind of fundamentalism—closed-minded individuals holding old-fashioned ideas of universal or objective truths. So with the recent resurgence of Mormonism in the United States, spurred partly by an aggressive, if less-than-doctrinally-oriented advertising campaign on billboards and the Internet, partly by the rise to national prominence of Mormon bishop and returned missionary Willard Mitt Romney, the public discourse on the nature of Mormonism and its teachings has been anything but focused upon accuracy of definition. In fact, the idea that the LDS faith is simply a somewhat odd variant of Christianity has been accepted widely without much fuss or bother. Only those most radically out-of-step with the modern world would actually ask, “But, what is the core of the LDS faith and its teachings? Is it really an expression of Christian faith, or a radical departure from it?”

Until recent times, dialogues with Mormons did not focus upon establishing that Mormonism had a radically different doctrine of God than Christianity: that was a given. But over the past thirty years a definite move toward ecumenism and “mainstreaming” has been present, and Mormonism now seeks to redefine “Christian” so that it can be stretched to encompass the complete negation of its own most central assertion: that there is one true and eternal God, unchanging, without beginning and without end, unique, without dependence upon prior forces or powers. Continue reading

The Facts on Mormonism

“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” – Deuteronomy 6:4

Judaism, Islam and Christianity are the three great monotheistic religions in our world. In contrast, Mormonism is the most polytheistic religion in existence. Therefore it is true to say that Christianity has more in common with Islam than it does Mormonism, as Dr. James White explains in this brief but very insightful overview video (21 minutes):

Combating an Ancient Heresy

Texts lifted out of their setting can be made to support many erroneous views and heresies. Surely, a text out of context is a pretext for all false doctrine. However, error is exposed when individual texts are subjected to analysis such as identifying the background, use of words, context, syntax, etc.

Some people are very quick to say that “the Lord” showed them the meaning of a verse. Yet it is often the case that the context of the verse totally repudiates the interpretation given. To fail to study the text’s context is not a mark of spirituality, but the exact opposite – a failure to honor the Holy Spirit who inspired the original words. We would never wish for our own words to be treated this way. How much more should this be the case when it is God the Holy Spirit who has inspired Scripture?

An old heresy, based upon a misinterpretation of John 10:34, suggests that men can become gods. This is the doctrine espoused by the LDS (Mormons) and other cult groups (many Word of Faith preachers teach this also). I will let an excerpt from my friend Dr. James White’s book “Is the Mormon my Brother?” show the context and true meaning of John 10:34. – John

Dr. White writes:

John chapter ten is one of the most beautiful in all of Scripture, for it speaks of the Lord Jesus’ relationship to His people in the terms of the Shepherd and His sheep. In the midst of talking about the glorious salvation that belongs to those who know and trust Christ, Jesus asserts that He and the Father are one in their bringing about the final and full salvation of all those who are given by the Father to the Son (vv. 28-30). When the Lord says, “I and the Father are one,”[1] He offends the Jews, who realize that such a claim implies deity. No mere creature can be fully one with the Father in bringing about redemption itself! This prompts the dialogue that concerns us here:
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Mormonism 101

DID YOU KNOW???? …the Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of an exalted man and one of his many wives who lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his “gospel” is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood.

Excellent Resources by Dr. James White can be found here.

Interview with an Ex-Mormon

David Murray conducted a very useful and informative interview with ex-Mormon and now Christian author Latayne Scott. She answers questions like these:

How did you become a Mormon?
How were you converted to Christ?
Is Mormonism a cult?
Should a Christian vote for Mitt Romney?
What are the changes in and challenges to Mormonism?
How should we evangelize Mormons? Should we invite them into our homes?

You will find the interview here.

No Joel, No!

NO JOEL.. No! Mormonism is not Christian at all – it is not Christian doctrine to deny the Trinity, to proclaim that the god who rules this earth (and who we are to worship) was once a man and who lives now on a planet encircling a star called Kolob; that Jesus was conceived by a sexual union between God and Mary… that the Bible has been superseded by the book of Mormon; that Jesus’ death and resurrection merely secured an opportunity to be saved if people will work for it.

Every Mormon needs to hear and embrace the true Gospel, not be affirmed as already being a Christian, especially by someone as prominent as yourself Joel. If you don’t know what you are talking about say nothing – admit that you have not studied what Mormonism teaches – but PLEASE don’t affirm the Mormon faith as Christian. Mormonism is the most polytheistic faith on the planet.

It is not at all loving to let the wolves roam free amongst the flock Joel and you just did that through your words. You have also undermind all the many ministries out there (many of them former Mormons) who seek to reach LDS people for the Lord.

More explanation here:

Should a Christian vote for a Mormon to be President?

According to the New Testament, part of a Christian pastor’s job assignment is to warn his congregation concerning false teaching. It is entirely right for him to say that the Jesus of Mormonism is the begotten offspring of an exalted man and one of his many wives who lives on a planet circling a star named Kolob, and his “gospel” is the message of how you, too, can be exalted to godhood. He should point out that the Mormon (LDS) Church denies Christ’s full deity and the “god” they worship is not eternal but merely an exalted man who has achieved godhood by obeying certain laws. He should make it clear that Christianity is actually closer to Islam than Mormonism as both Islam and Christianity affirm monotheism (there is only one God) while Mormonism is one of the most polytheistic religions in existence. It is therefore right for him to say that it is certainly not in any way compatible with biblical Christianity. Where a pastor goes astray is when he then says to his congregation, “you should not vote for any presidential candidate who holds to such beliefs.” Even while he makes people aware of the theological facts, all should be encouraged to vote according to their conscience.

Since writing the above I have come across an interesting article by Dr. Al Mohler on this theme found here, as well as this one by Kevin DeYoung called Mormonism 101.